Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists

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Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« on: June 19, 2008, 02:21:19 PM »
I had a sudden urge to make this list.  (What can I say, I like High Fidelity!)  Let me know your thoughts.

5. Richie Blackmore
4. Preston Reed
3. Tom Morello
2. Jimi Hendrix
1. Les Paul

Honorable mention: Jimmy Page, Tony Iommi

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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 02:29:30 PM »
I don't know how you can have Morello and not EVH - he was making all sorts of weird noises that had people scratching their heads years before...

I'd include Jeff Beck because he's another one that makes a guitar sound like something other than a guitar...

Michael Hedges was pretty innovative on acoustic - tons of people cop his style now.

I'd include Prince because he gets tones that no one else gets - if you really listen to what he's doing it's some pretty weird Shazam as far as the sounds he gets.

Adrian Belew is another one that pushed the boundaries of what you can do with a guitar...

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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 02:31:24 PM »
I'd throw Charlie Christian and Django Rheinhardt into the mix.

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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 03:13:34 PM »
My three "most innovative":
Nick Drake (no one fingerpicks like that - no one)
Robert Fripp
Adrian Belew

I've never cared much for van Halen/Beck/Clapton/Hendrix and all those.
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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 03:17:25 PM »
What about Chuck Berry, or Allan Holdsworth?
These 2, among many others, forged styles so singular they were named for their originators.
Surely Andres Segovia deserves mention. Not to mention Tarrega.

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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2008, 03:20:36 PM »
I can't argue with those chosen already, but at least in a top 10 list I'd like to see EVH and Joe Satriani.  EVH inspired a whole generation, and Satriani trained a whole generation.

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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2008, 03:42:25 PM »
I considered EVH of course, but I feel like his innovations were mainly an expansion of Blackmore's.

Satch is a great shredder but he didn't really invent anything that I know of.

I don't know much about classical guitar but was Andres Segovia an INNOVATOR?  Classical guitarists are known for technique and accuracy, not for blazing trails.  In fact, that's what they're LEAST known for!!

Chuck Berry is a good one.   :icon_thumright:

The rest I agree with to some extent (or I haven't heard of them).

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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2008, 05:03:41 PM »
I can't do top five lists, they always turn into top 5000.  But some innovative folks that I dig, that have't been mentioned, Thurston Moore/Lee Renaldo/Kim Gordon count as one.  Mississippi John Hurt.  Blixa Belgard.  See, I kind of end up all over the place.

Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2008, 05:18:58 PM »
WTF? Do you know what INNOVATIVE means? Ritchie Blackmore never played a lick he didn't steal and cops to that readily; Tom Morello can barely play guitar....

1.) Django Reinhardt
2.) Wes Montgomery
3.) Chuck Berry
4.) Jimi Hendrix
5.) EVH

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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2008, 05:31:35 PM »
EVH basically invented two-handed tapping, at least to the extent that it is done today.  Regarding Satch, he did more than just "shred," he basically popularized the modal use of scales in the musical sense.  Further, he took the whammy where no man had gone before.

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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2008, 05:59:51 PM »

I don't know much about classical guitar but was Andres Segovia an INNOVATOR?  Classical guitarists are known for technique and accuracy, not for blazing trails.  In fact, that's what they're LEAST known for!!


Without Segovia, the guitar wouldn't be nearly as widely accepted as it is. Don't forget, there was little to no repertoire for the guitar until he came along. His technique and mastery of the instrument was so developed he was able to convince composers to create works for the so-called "Spanish guitar".
So yes, Segovia was an innovator who laid the groundwork for much of what came after. Although, he hated the electric guitar.

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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2008, 06:12:36 PM »

I don't know much about classical guitar but was Andres Segovia an INNOVATOR?  Classical guitarists are known for technique and accuracy, not for blazing trails.  In fact, that's what they're LEAST known for!!


Without Segovia, the guitar wouldn't be nearly as widely accepted as it is. Don't forget, there was little to no repertoire for the guitar until he came along. His technique and mastery of the instrument was so developed he was able to convince composers to create works for the so-called "Spanish guitar".
So yes, Segovia was an innovator who laid the groundwork for much of what came after. Although, he hated the electric guitar.

Yes yes yes. The guitar itself was considered a backup instrument for folky music, unfit for solo performance of 'real' music until he came along and PROVED to people what the guitar could do. For most people then, the idea of a guitarist filling a concert hall was simply unheard of.

DBW a number of classical guitarists, those I respect really, are incredibly innovative, constantly redefining "classical" music and vastly expanding the 'accepted' repertoire. Look up Lily Afshar, if you're interested. She's Iranian and often plays Persian folk and classical music on the guitar. You're right that she does have impeccable technique (and a lovely tremolo), but she also creates sounds I doubt many of us have heard so skillfully on the guitar before. Her musicianship is sky-high.

And for us gear heads, she has 'fretlets' installed in her fingerboard, little quarter steps so that she can play Persian melodies on a western instrument.

PS I'm totally in love with her.

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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2008, 06:14:19 PM »
Cool, I'm learning stuff :)

Jack, big disagree on Tom Morello.  But you may be right about Blackmore.  I just named 5 guys without doing any research.  :P

Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2008, 08:55:37 PM »
Most probably won't agree, but I am throwing Malmsteen in the mix.  Basically championed the whole neoclassical trend.
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Re: Top 5 Most Innovative Guitarists
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2008, 08:56:10 PM »
what? a list and no research????  :icon_tongue:

Seriously, I can't do these lists either..
the main problem is that I would only consider guitarists that are within my personal taste.. which is completely wrong of course ;)
anyway, I think that Steve Howe should be in there :) not only is he my personal favorite, he also combines so many different styles and influences and made it into his own unique style.. which btw is impossible to imitate..



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