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« on: October 31, 2009, 11:28:06 am »

Does anyone have a diagram for a Super 5-way with:

1 - Neck
2 - Neck and Bridge in Series
3 - Neck and Bridge in Parallel
4 - Bridge
5- (off)

Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2009, 11:36:10 am »

I would suggest a 4 way switch, with a push-pull pot for that kill setting. I wouldn't want my guitar cutting off by accident mid-show.
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2009, 04:43:20 pm »

I would suggest a 4 way switch, with a push-pull pot for that kill setting. I wouldn't want my guitar cutting off by accident mid-show.

or a separate kill switch.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2009, 04:46:10 pm »

I would suggest a 4 way switch, with a push-pull pot for that kill setting. I wouldn't want my guitar cutting off by accident mid-show.

or a separate kill switch.
Yep. Just thought he might not want to drill extra holes. 
But the separate kill switch might be the more foolproof of the two.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2009, 11:00:53 pm »

Hey Minions, why don't you go look at the seymour duncan website and find the schematic you want.

The only thing your doing with this post is being lazy, anyone here that would help you, would spend a few minutes looking through some schematics and posting a link for you.

Do it yourself. it's not that hard.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 07:16:41 am »

Hey Minions, why don't you go look at the seymour duncan website and find the schematic you want.

The only thing your doing with this post is being lazy, anyone here that would help you, would spend a few minutes looking through some schematics and posting a link for you.

Do it yourself. it's not that hard.

Good thinking... Except I already looked at Seymour Duncan's wiring page and they don't have a 5-way switch for that. They have a 4-way, but not a 5-way.

The reason I want an off position is because I have 3 pickups. I want the seven options you can get with 3 pickups in both parallel and series.  The way I've figured to do this is have the 5-way switch with the positions mentioned above and then have a separate on/off switch for the middle pickup and a switch to put it in series or in parallel.

If anyone has a better idea for this, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys, for spending your time answering my question.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 07:26:16 am »

Try www.guitarelectronics.com, they have schematics on just about any pick up and switch configuration you can think of....
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2009, 09:20:01 am »

I don't think you'll find that schematic because honestly it's not a very good way to get multiple tones. The reason is that it would be very, very easy to accidentally turn off the guitar mid-song. If you want that kill switch position, okay, but it doesn't sound like you do. I'll draw it up for you if you really want that, but I don't have a camera here so it would have to wait until tomorrow.

 Is this for a strat? If so, here's what I have on my own strat - it gives every possible combination (except neck and bridge in series, no middle), looks stock, and the only 'dead spot' is in series, position 3. No dead switch position unless you're using the funky extra tones. http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=7713.0
The "blend pot" is just the standard 500k pot with a push-pull.

Another good option for your super switch is the five-tone tele diagram below.


One other thing you might consider, and probably what I would do if next time: Just figure out what five sounds you need the most and wire the super switch to give you those. On a strat, maybe just for example you never use 'middle only' or 'bridge only' and those could be replaced by 'neck / bridge series out of phase' and 'neck / middle in series in phase' just for instance. You could wire up a switch like that no prob.


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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2009, 09:50:34 am »

I don't think you'll find that schematic because honestly it's not a very good way to get multiple tones. The reason is that it would be very, very easy to accidentally turn off the guitar mid-song. If you want that kill switch position, okay, but it doesn't sound like you do. I'll draw it up for you if you really want that, but I don't have a camera here so it would have to wait until tomorrow.

 Is this for a strat? If so, here's what I have on my own strat - it gives every possible combination (except neck and bridge in series, no middle), looks stock, and the only 'dead spot' is in series, position 3. No dead switch position unless you're using the funky extra tones. http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=7713.0
The "blend pot" is just the standard 500k pot with a push-pull.

Another good option for your super switch is the five-tone tele diagram below.


One other thing you might consider, and probably what I would do if next time: Just figure out what five sounds you need the most and wire the super switch to give you those. On a strat, maybe just for example you never use 'middle only' or 'bridge only' and those could be replaced by 'neck / bridge series out of phase' and 'neck / middle in series in phase' just for instance. You could wire up a switch like that no prob.

then wire the middle pickup to your second tone, take off the cap, and use it as a blend pot.  push pull for the kill position.
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2009, 09:51:29 am »

Is this for a strat? If so, here's what I have on my own strat - it gives every possible combination (except neck and bridge in series, no middle), looks stock, and the only 'dead spot' is in series, position 3.

Okay so I looked at your diagram. What options do have in all?

Thanks, I actually might use this.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2009, 10:43:14 am »

All five standard strat positions, plus: Neck / bridge parallel. All three parallel. Neck / mid series. mid / bridges series. all three series (sort of, the middle goes to both bridge and neck).
That's ten sounds, more than you or I probably need from one guitar. I suppose you could add a phase switch for the middle and get about 6 more tones.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2009, 12:50:58 pm »

Try the attached drawing

1...Bridge
2...Bridge and Middle...Can be run in series, parallel or out of phase
3...Middle
4...Middle and Neck...Can be run in series, parallel or out of phase
5...Neck

There are 9 options here. All of the positions are HUM CANCELING if the middle pickup is reverse polarity and wired, apart from the out of phase sounds.

You can mix up the pickups on the super switch using the same idea to get different pickup configurations but nuthing else will be hum canceling!


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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2009, 01:05:57 pm »

Does anyone have a diagram for a Super 5-way with:

1 - Neck
2 - Neck and Bridge in Series
3 - Neck and Bridge in Parallel
4 - Bridge
5- (off)

Thanks.

Neck and bridge in series or neck and bridge in parallel would be very noisey...not hum canceling...i presume it is an SSS guitar. If you had a HSH you could do this with hum canceling! Check out the attachment.

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2009, 02:05:30 pm »

Does anyone have a diagram for a Super 5-way with:

1 - Neck
2 - Neck and Bridge in Series
3 - Neck and Bridge in Parallel
4 - Bridge
5- (off)

Thanks.

Neck and bridge in series or neck and bridge in parallel would be very noisey...not hum canceling...i presume it is an SSS guitar. If you had a HSH you could do this with hum canceling! Check out the attachment.

I meant to attach this to the above post.
You can run all of the selections in parallel, series od series/out of phase
Not advisable to run in paralell/out of phase...sound is the same as parallel without hum canceling.


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